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  Can't think how they will respond

  by Giles Gray in

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  i've been chatting to the jws the past couple of weeks.the last time they called they showed me a video about a scientist who claimed that she had once been an atheist, but after studying with the jws she had changed her mind and now believed in an intelligent creator.

  what had convinced her was the process that activates the functioning of the lungs just after a baby has been born.after we had watched the video, the jws said that there are many people who believe that creation indicates an intelligent designer.in reply i asked them what they thought about the 'unintelligent' aspects of creation and i went into a few examples.at first they tried to write things off to imperfection due to adamic sin, but as the conversation went on they slowly realised that arguing 'imperfection' wasn't an adequate explanation for the points i was making.to cut a long story short, i ended up sending them a video via email where professor dawkins comments on an autopsy that highlights the impracticality of the laryngeal nerve in giraffes.i also sent them evidence of vestigial limbs in whales and a short article about biological atavism.in addition, i sent them an article that coincidentally was on the bbc news a few days ago about a boy in india who had a 7 inch vestigial tail removed.

  here is the article i sent them:-http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3823461/the-teenager-7-inch-tail-18-year-old-finally-growth-removed-painful-sit-sleep.htmli'm really looking forward to seeing what they will come back with.

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  Half banana

  Most JWs have a fact filter which ignores anything said which is contrary to their doctrines. At the same time they will recognize and amplify any scrap of information however marginal or unrepresentative of reality which accords with JW beliefs.

  This is what it means to be a JW.

  But I do hope they return and you can also then mention that some snakes (Boas and Pythons) retain the ilium of the pelvic bones of their evolutionary forebears and that some species of skinks have legs and others are without legs. The latter demonstrating an intergrade or halfway house between two of the Biblical 'kinds'.
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  Start A Butterfly Garden!

  by Bonsai in

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  2. friends

  time to take a break from debating religion.

  take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?

  how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?

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  Half banana

  Where have all the butterflies gone?

  This year in England I have only seen a dozen and they are mainly the beautiful Red Admiral. I was away in Africa for three weeks and travelling from Angola down through Namibia to South Africa I saw only three butterflies including one large fritillary.

  Perhaps they are doing better in your garden Bonsai?
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  New Video Series On Courtship May Open Some Eyes

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so the wife was watching the latest installment of jw broadcasting and near the end there was a new segment on dating and courtship.

  it starts at about the 39 minute mark:.

  https://youtu.be/vuir-azsdm0?t=38m52s.

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  Half banana

  This sugared idealism might have worked half a century ago but the levels of social awareness have changed. Cults always are interested in controlling the sex activities of their followers.

  I admit I couldn't suffer more than a few minutes of this bilge.

  Make it more difficult for sisters to marry...is that the subtext? As Never a JW said; it would make for more celibate female pioneers..........Nah! better still just leave the organisation and get a real life.
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  Sarah, transsexual: "Witnesses have forbidden my mother to live with me"

  by sp74bb in

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  2. friends

  final article in www.elperiodico.es.

  http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/sociedad/sarah-transexual-los-testigos-han-prohibido-madre-que-viva-conmigo-5454048.

  google translate:.

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  Half banana

  Dedorio, we need to acknowledge that gender disphoria, hermaphroditism and other sexual identity problems exist as a fact of the human condition.

  We need education and understanding, compassion and tolerance but we don't need to make matters more complicated by involving Jesus a character from an ancient story book.

  It really annoys me that people quote a scripture to justify something. Please think again more clearly: Christ is not "reality" (John 14:6). That idea is based on a bizarre statement written to coerce ignorant and religiously susceptible people. Only a madman could say "I am the way" and only the mad would believe it.

  Think for yourself instead.
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  CO visit... Circuit is not growing at all, he said during midweek meeting

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  2. beliefs

  so that was a "shocker".

  i was not able to attend the meeting.

  i had a more important one with my other apostate friends in the area.

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  Half banana

  Ah! music to my ears : no increase...next stage: decrease.

  When it becomes generally realized--- it will be a good reason to fall away and encourage further decline...and others will follow. Then those with doubts will think "now is the time to depart" and they will. Wake up JWS and bring it on!
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  What they don't tell you what was left out of the Bible.

  by Crazyguy in

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  2. bible

  in the newest bible the gb took out the scriptures found in the last chapter of mark verses 9 on.

  they say these scriptures were added later.

  what they don't tell you in in the oldest bible the septuagint the assention of christ to heaven was also not in the book of luke nor mathew!

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  Half banana

  And Jesus went up into the sky, like pagan saviour heros do at the spring equinox... and the Bible story, just as in the pagan myth; had to end with the son going back to his Sun-god father to shine radiantly together from the heavens.........................
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  The Jewish Temple(s) In Egypt. (Circa 5th Century BCE)

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the web address on the above sketch is misleading as the sketch (it seems) was included originally, in a article in a peer reviewed archaeological journal by a stephen rosenberg.. there is little doubt that the temple was genuine and it demonstrates that the ot stories about the role of egypt in the formation of judaism do not tell the truth about the complete relationship between israel and the egyptian empire.. we know that this temple on elephantine island was genuine.

  some papyrus correspondence has survived .

  there is also another (claimed) jewish temple that an archaelogical team explored last century, but the precise location has been lost.. more on the above temple tomorrow..

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  Half banana

  It is possible that the Jews in Egypt had a greater chance of making a temple there in wealthy Egypt than they would in the impoverished land of Canaan.

  So much of the OT content is about Israel's political aspirations and not reality.
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  Welcome to all the Newbies in the last six months

  by smiddy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think all of us on this forum would like to welcome all the newbies that have joined in the last six months or so ,if i`m not mistaken there seems to be an influx lately.. elders , ms ,and sisters.

  speak up and make a comment , are you happy you came here ?.

  we`d love to here from you.. smiddy.

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  Half banana

  Glad to have you all here.........a lot of Jerhoover's great army seem to be going AWOL!
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  The Anointed Class: Do They Have Spirits?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i realize that the anointed class inherits heaven while the great crowd inherits a renewed planet earth, but how and when are the anointed chosen?

  are these people born with spirits or do they grow them as they live?

  when they die, they don't sleep but go right to heaven, right?

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  Half banana

  On Watchtower Fantasy Island, anything can happen...
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  What would be the Watchtower organizations response to "GB-Fact-checkers"

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  much is being said during the usa election run-up and trump-clinton debates about checking the facts of statements made by each candidate.

  this is, of course, serious stuff as the direction of the countries future depends on just who is elected into office of the president of the united states of america.

  not president of the local 'glee club' or the 'southside knitting society' , but, the president of the united states of america.

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  Half banana

  Facts is a dirty word to the Watchtower. You can run a cult on facts.